Prabhupad says that Maha-Visnu comes from Baladev/Balarama in TLC Introduction:
“[…]The manifestations of the Supreme are also explained in Caitanya-caritāmṛta. After offering respects to Lord Caitanya, Kṛṣṇadāsa Kavirāja next offers them to Nityānanda. He explains that Nityānanda is a manifestation of Saṅkarṣaṇa, who is the origin of the Mahā-Viṣṇu. Kṛṣṇa’s first manifestation is as Balarāma and then Saṅkarṣaṇa, and after Saṅkarṣaṇa He is manifest as Pradyumna. In this way so many expansions take place. Although there are many expansions, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa is the origin, as confirmed in Brahma-saṁhitā. […]”http://causelessmercy.com/?P=TLCIntoduction
Thankyou Bhakta Peter for this Quote. Although Lord Balarama was originally worshiped by all of Humanity, with the onset of Kali Yuga (Age = Yuga) proper information and realization of His Self Revelation became distorted and then forgotten by much of the Human family. However, the ancient Sanskrit Vedic-Vaishnava Shastras (Scriptures) and Their AUTHORIZED COMMENTARIES are like a ‘time machine’ that can take us all of the way back to the Original Revelation, to MEET the Divine Revelator and Master of Mysteries, Lord Balarama HIMSELF!
Although the revelatory theology of Lord Balarama, Sri Krishna’s Second Self, is spread throughout ALL of the Vedic-Vaishnava Scriptures, in the Gaudiya Vaishnava Tradition of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, the traditional ancient Brahma Lineage Theology of Lord Balarama is especially preserved and elaborated-on in the context of describing the attributes, activities and theology of Sri Nityanananda-Balarama, Who is considered to be Lord Balarama’s Avatara in the Divine Lila of Sri Sri Gaura-Nitai.
Thus to understand Lord Balarama from the Gaudiya-related perspective of the Brahma Sampradaya (Lineage) of Vaishnavism, which is historically and theologically related to the Afro-Helleno-Semitic Judeo-cCatholic Tradition of the ancient Mediterranean, one should carefully study the Vaishnava Scriptural Translations and Traditional Gaudiya Vaishnava Commentaries of the Modern Era Gaudiya Vaishnava Master, Srila Prabhupada. Read the rest of this entry
Indonesian Ramayana Reenactment at the ancient Prambanan Temple Complex. All Vaishnavas recognize that Rama and Lakshman are Krishna and Balaram Despite differences in their roles and lila based activities, they remain the same divine beings. In the same way Apollo and Dionysus are in fact ancient forms of these same divinities whose worship is found at the root primal level of all Religion.
There were 2 Traditions of Helios Kouros and Dionysos associated with Both Krishna and Balarama’s daytime and nightime ‘Solar’ and ‘Lunar’ Cycle Lilas. Thus Helios Kouros and Dionysos and Their Kouroi Friends (Expansions) herding Companions herded Their 365 Sacred White Cows during the Day and Their Sacred White Sheep during the Night.
To understand this one should consider that secular academic scholars of ‘Hinduism’ have long identified Lord Baladeva with the Moon and Nightime (which infers protective Shepherding), the Lunar Calendar, Water (Narayana), Silver, the Ambrosia (Nectar of Immortality) Soma Rasa and Mead / Madhu and the Lunar-related ‘Dionysian’ Night Revels of the Rasa Dance, etc. while associating Krishna with the Solar Calendar, the ‘class of supreme solar divinities’, Daytime, Cow herding (pasturing in the daytime), HARI and Agni Hotra Fire Sacrifices, Gold, Bread etc
Thus between Them the ‘Wine’ and the ‘Bread’ Maha Prasadam of Their respective Sacrificial Rites was comprehended along with Their so-called Solar and Lunar ‘Aspects’ of Culture and Religion, of Their Dionysian Lunar Reveling and Their ‘Apollonian’ religious daylight conservativeness. Since THEY were two Persons of the SAME DEITY, THEY were worshiped in the Mediterranean often as BROTHERS, with ‘Apollo’ (Gopala) and Dionysos being worshiped in the same Temple or Sanctuary. Western Scholars have long been interested in the relationship between Apollo and Dionysos as two different ‘aspects’ of the same deity.
However such scholars have made very serious errors by focusing their studies on the later Maenad and Bacchant-related orgiastic and cannibalistic traditions of the corrupt PSEUDO-Dionysians of the Mediterranean Region. These cannibalistic so-called ‘Dionysian’ Maenad / Bacchant groups were in fact related-to the most vile of the tamasic (and worse, demonic) ‘5Ms’ criminal Pseudo-‘Kali’ groups in India. So the recent 5Ms ‘Left Hand Tantric’ Advocates of a return to human sacrifice and cannibalism have made much of the historical connections that they have found between the late, corrupt Maenad worship of ‘Dionysos’ and the THAG-related 5Ms Tantric groups in India and the Orient.
The Jewish and Christian Scholars of the Sattvic-tending Western Bhakti Traditions, which reject such things as human sacrifice, cannibalism and drug-induced violent murderous ‘religious’ sex orgies, have been unable to understand that this late corrupted form of pseudo-‘Dionysian’ religion was just that. Thus they have confused the Original Christ-Dionysos (Baladeva) with the later abominable Anti-Christ pseudo-Dionysos of the Bacchants / Maenads. Thus one of the greatest challenges that I have faced in my work is that of clearly differentiating the Original Baladeva Dionysos-Christ from all of the false Anti-Christs of the past AND present.
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