Krishna & Balarama and the So-called Solar-Lunar ‘Aspects’ of Religion

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Indonesian Ramayana Reenactment at the ancient Prambanan Temple Complex.   All Vaishnavas recognize that Rama and Lakshman are Krishna and Balaram Despite differences in their roles and lila based activities, they remain the same divine beings.  In the same way Apollo and Dionysus are in fact ancient forms of these same divinities whose worship is found at the root primal level of all Religion.

Indonesian Ramayana Reenactment at the ancient Prambanan Temple Complex. All Vaishnavas recognize that Rama and Lakshman are Krishna and Balaram Despite differences in their roles and lila based activities, they remain the same divine beings. In the same way Apollo and Dionysus are in fact ancient forms of these same divinities whose worship is found at the root primal level of all Religion.

There were 2 Traditions of Helios Kouros and Dionysos associated with Both Krishna and Balarama’s daytime and nightime ‘Solar’ and ‘Lunar’ Cycle Lilas. Thus Helios Kouros and Dionysos and Their Kouroi Friends (Expansions) herding Companions herded Their 365 Sacred White Cows during the Day and Their Sacred White Sheep during the Night. 
To understand this one should consider that secular academic scholars of ‘Hinduism’ have long identified Lord Baladeva with the Moon and Nightime (which infers protective Shepherding), the Lunar Calendar, Water (Narayana), Silver, the Ambrosia (Nectar of Immortality) Soma Rasa and Mead / Madhu and the Lunar-related ‘Dionysian’ Night Revels of the Rasa Dance, etc. while associating Krishna with the Solar Calendar, the ‘class of supreme solar divinities’, Daytime, Cow herding (pasturing in the daytime), HARI and Agni Hotra Fire Sacrifices, Gold, Bread etc

Thus between Them the ‘Wine’ and the ‘Bread’ Maha Prasadam of Their respective Sacrificial Rites was comprehended along with Their so-called Solar and Lunar ‘Aspects’ of Culture and Religion, of Their Dionysian Lunar Reveling and Their ‘Apollonian’ religious daylight conservativeness. Since THEY were two Persons of the SAME DEITY, THEY were worshiped in the Mediterranean often as BROTHERS, with ‘Apollo’ (Gopala) and Dionysos being worshiped in the same Temple or Sanctuary. Western Scholars have long been interested in the relationship between Apollo and Dionysos as two different ‘aspects’ of the same deity.

However such scholars have made very serious errors by focusing their studies on the later Maenad and Bacchant-related orgiastic and cannibalistic traditions of the corrupt PSEUDO-Dionysians of the Mediterranean Region. These cannibalistic so-called ‘Dionysian’ Maenad / Bacchant groups were in fact related-to the most vile of the tamasic (and worse, demonic) ‘5Ms’ criminal Pseudo-‘Kali’ groups in India. So the recent 5Ms ‘Left Hand Tantric’ Advocates of a return to human sacrifice and cannibalism have made much of the historical connections that they have found between the late, corrupt Maenad worship of ‘Dionysos’ and the THAG-related 5Ms Tantric groups in India and the Orient.

The Jewish and Christian Scholars of the Sattvic-tending Western Bhakti Traditions, which reject such things as human sacrifice, cannibalism and drug-induced violent murderous ‘religious’ sex orgies, have been unable to understand that this late corrupted form of pseudo-‘Dionysian’ religion was just that. Thus they have confused the Original Christ-Dionysos (Baladeva) with the later abominable Anti-Christ pseudo-Dionysos of the Bacchants / Maenads. Thus one of the greatest challenges that I have faced in my work is that of clearly differentiating the Original Baladeva Dionysos-Christ from all of the false Anti-Christs of the past AND present.

Factually our present World is more afflicted than ever with innumerable anti-Christ false ‘nityanandas’, ‘baladevas’, ‘krishnas’ and ‘jesuses’. Thus there are false ‘avataras’ and ‘messiahs’ preying on people all over the World.

There are false ‘healers’ and ‘akashic records readers’, false ‘psychics’, ‘channelers’, ‘alien contactees’, astrologers, head-bump, palm and tea leaf readers and predatory prognosticators of all kinds everywhere. Among them the pseudo-‘christs’ and false gods are collecting their harems of ‘gopis’, like David Koresh, the polygamous leaders of the various Mormon Sects, or like some M*slim potentates.

So our challenge is to sort-out the actual History and the Revelatory Theology of the One True God and Dionysos-Christ from all of the corruption and evil that has been done in His Holy Name! Before Srila Prabhupada brought the AUTHENTIC Vedic-Vaishnava worship of the Primal Purusha Trinity of Krishna-Balarama-Paramatma to ‘the Western World’, it was NOT POSSIBLE to clearly and completely sort-out the Real Christ from the Anti-Christ of GLOBAL History and Revelatory Theology. By bringing THE WORLD the authentic GURU, SHASTRA and SADHU (Sadhaka, Greek Ascetic, Jewish TZADDIK) Tradition of Indic Krishna-Balarama-Paramatma Worship, Srila Prabhupada made it possible to understand and to clearly and completely differentiate between the REAL Baladeva-Dionysos-Jesus Christ of History and Revelation, and all of the other imitations and ANTI-CHRISTS, ANTI-KRISHNAS.

Apollo and Dionysus at Delphi, Attic vase, fourth century BC. The ecstatic aspect of Apollo’s oracle brought it into natural alliance with the religion of Dionysus, who ruled Delphi during the three winter months while Apollo was away among the Hyperboreans. Even the grave of Dionysus could be seen in Apollo’s precinct. Apollo, shown as a beardless youth with a crown of laurel, bids goodbye to Dionysus, bearded and wearing tragic garb and carrying a special staff (the thyrsus). Beneath them is the Delphic omphalos or navel, said to be the stone that Cronus swallowed instead of Zeus, and behind them a palm tree, a symbol of Apollo. The other figures are maenads and satyrs, followers of Dionysus (for which see Chapter 10). (© The State Hermitage Museum, St. Petersburg, Russia) Source: Classical Myth  7th Edition. Barry B. Powell

Apollo and Dionysus at Delphi, Attic vase, fourth century BC. The ecstatic aspect of Apollo’s oracle brought it into natural alliance with the religion of Dionysus, who ruled Delphi during the three winter months while Apollo was away among the Hyperboreans. Even the grave of Dionysus could be seen in Apollo’s precinct. Apollo, shown as a beardless youth with a crown of laurel, bids goodbye to Dionysus, bearded and wearing tragic garb and carrying a special staff (the thyrsus). Beneath them is the Delphic omphalos or navel, said to be the stone that Cronus swallowed instead of Zeus, and behind them a palm tree, a symbol of Apollo. The other figures are maenads and satyrs, followers of Dionysus (for which see Chapter 10). (© The State Hermitage Museum, St. Petersburg, Russia) Source: Classical Myth 7th Edition. Barry B. Powell

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  1. Thank You Vrndavan-ji for your good comment about Vaishnava Devotees being able to recognize Rama and Lakshman as ‘cognate with’ or simultaneously one and different as Krishna and Balarama. This point is entirely valid and extremely important in the whole question of HOW it is going to be possible for the Devotees of the Great Bhakti Traditions to ultimately be able to respect and even to be able to grow to appreciate each others’ Sacred Traditions.

    Also, the illustration on the above vase nicely summarizes exactly some of my main points, which I have long been making about Krishna-Balarama Worship in the ancient Mediterranean Region. So I want to explain a few of these points, using this 4th C BC Attic Vase.

    “Apollo and Dionysus at Delphi, Attic vase, fourth century BC. The ecstatic aspect of Apollo’s oracle…”

    Oracle in this sense meaning the Sanctuary of Apollo at Delphi, where Apollo and Dionysos were worshiped TOGETHER as two PERSONS of the SAME SUPREME DEITY…

    “…brought it into natural alliance with the religion of Dionysus, who ruled Delphi during the three winter months while Apollo was away among the Hyperboreans.”

    As the World-Saving Ausu or Osiris ‘Lord of the Dead’, Ausar YAHU (WASU VASUDEVA) Ausu-Dionysos reigned-over the Winter Season which to the ancient Greeks was associated with the Helios Tradition Orphic Kore and Demeter (Sita and Mother Earth) Mysteries.

    “Even the grave of Dionysus could be seen in Apollo’s precinct.”

    As the Lord of the Dead, Bal -Yahu as Ausar -Dionysos and ASCLEPIOS IASAS (Jesus Christ) was the Winter-time Dying and Springtime Resurrecting Lord of Life.

    “Apollo, shown as a beardless youth with a crown of laurel, bids goodbye to Dionysus, bearded and wearing tragic garb and carrying a special staff (the thyrsus).”

    Only ‘Apollo’ (a by-Name of Helios Meghistos Kouros) was the Original Supreme Kouros and NEVER had ANY OTHER FORM than HIS BEARDLESS NEW JUVENILE NAVA YAUVANA KRISHNA FORM! However, ALL of His variegated Forms for ‘Pastimes’, were through, with, in and by His Alter-Form or ‘Brother’ DIONYSOS. These two ‘Brothers’ or ‘Aspects’ or Persons of the SAME SUPREME GODHEAD were worshiped TOGETHER in Egyptian prehistory as evidenced by art and artifacts, and at the horizon of the historical period, as evidenced in the earliest writing. Generally now these Two Persons are called HERU THE ELDER and AUSU or AUSAR ‘Osiris’. HERU-Ausu (Heru) the ELDER is acknowledged by the real expert Egyptologists and scholars of Greek Religion to be the HELIOS of the great Greek Monotheists and Philosophers, Scientists, Physicians and Metaphysicians. Throughout thousands of years and the entire Region, THIS HERU-AUSU and Their omnipresent ATUM / ATEN was worshiped by MONOTHEISTS. They claimed that HE, HERU the ELDER or HELIOS was the ORIGINAL, SUPREME PERSONALITY of GODHEAD. And He Was. His Devotees knew it and remained faithful to HIM as the Region sank ever-further into impersonal pantheism, mundane polytheism and everything else but pure Monotheistic Bhakti Yoga.

    In Africa Their Compound Holy Name was HERU-AUSU in the Egyptian Language and HELIOS in the Greek. Thus the great First Capital of Rhodes-related HERU-AUSU worship was called HELIOPOLIS. This Name used to be rendered as HORUS but now some experts prefer HERU and AUSU. The Greeks wrote it as HELIOS and the Romans wrote it as SOLEUS. I have confirmed that this compound Holy Name is the Biblical ELI-YAHU and the Sanskrit HARI-VASU as well as HAREYAH, HARIH, SUREH, SURYA, HARAH, etc.. This is also the Pure Land Buddhist HRIH / HARIH etc., the Hebrew ELOAH, Aramaic ALLAH, and Persian HVAREH Name. All these Compound Holy Names are cognates.

    Note that ALL of Gopala’s OLDER THAN KOUROS FORMS like the Bearded DIONYSOS, and His the Mature Asclepios and Zeus Fulgar Forms etc. are actually Forms of Dionysos / Baladeva.

    “Beneath them is the Delphic omphalos or navel, ”

    This is worshiped as the Lingham of Siva in the East. Such Stones were commonly worshiped in relationship to Apollo-Dionysos throughout the Region. The one a Delphi was particularly Holy. Delpha in Greek is cognate with GARBHA in Sanskrit and means WOMB or NAVEL. Wherever the Lord’s Sanctuary Was, was considered the AXIS MUNDI or NAVEL of the Universe. Note the name OMPHALOS. The confounding of this word and PHALLOS for Lingham is quite possible. The Sanctuary of Helios-Apollo and Dionysos at DELPHI no-doubt was associated somehow with HELIOS DELPHINOS the ‘WOMB FISH’ or Dolphin (Matsya) Form of Helios. Also the double association is that GARBHO-DAKSAYI VISHNU’s NAVEL is the Origin of Brahma and the Cosmic Manifestation. This doctrine of Brahma appearing on the primordial LOTUS from the Navel of Narayana Vishnu is directly related-to the cultus of the 4 headed and 4 armed KHNUM or Helios Phanes appearing on the Nile Lotus from the submerged Body of the ‘Nile God’ HAPI or the Vedic APA Deva.

    “…said to be the stone that Cronus swallowed instead of Zeus,”

    This is a reference to the MYTH of Chronus (Time) eating His Children. The Myth is a misunderstood fragment of Arjuna seeing the Worlds rushing into the Mouths of Krishna as KALAH / TIME in His Bhagavad-gita As It IS. This Myth is told in association with the stone-worship of Zeus Petros, Jupiter Lapis and Zeus-Jupiter-Ammon as the fossil AMMONITE, the Shalagram Shila Stone.

    “…and behind them a palm tree, a symbol of Apollo.”

    Yes, and actually the PALM TREE was a Symbol of JERICHO, JERUSALEM / HIEROSOLYM and the JEWS / JUDAISM in particular!

    “The other figures are maenads and satyrs, followers of Dionysus (for which see Chapter 10).”

    Before Lord Shiva was exclusively associated with such beings, Lord Baladeva as the Great Physician was the Savior of all kinds of strange beings who followed Him in His retinue! Actually Siva IS another Form of Lord Baladeva.

    (© The State Hermitage Museum, St. Petersburg, Russia) Source: Classical Myth 7th Edition. Barry B. Powell”

  2. Actually there is so much MORE to say about this one vase. The Palm Tree is both the PRIMARY SYMBOL of Jerusalem, the Jews and Jericho, AS WELL AS A VERY IMPORTANT SYMBOL OF LORD BALADEVA!!! The Supreme Semitic ‘Moon God’, the BL of JERICHO was called SM/N! This Name has been rendered SIN, but the N and M are interchangable due to sound-shifting and so WHAT IS THE SM NAME ASSOCIATED WITH THE MOON? The Lord as SOMA DEVA (Chandra-Soma) is associated with the Moon, the Nectar of immortality and with the MOON-FED PHARMACOPIA OF MEDICINAL HERBS that are SACRED TO THE GREAT PHYSICIAN and Lord of Herbs! So why did Jesus Christ encamp IN JERICHO THE CITY OF PALMS and Dwelling-Place of the MOON GOD of MEDICINE and the Nectar of Immortality? Was HE the ancient BAL-Theos or Yahu DIOS (TOVA-YAHU = VASU DEVA) LORD of Jericho? What did the Devotees believe? Who did the Devotees say that He Was? They answered this question for the ages by WORSHIPING HIM WITH PALM FRONDS ON PALM SUNDAY AS HE RODE INTO JERUSALEM ON A SACRED ASANA ASS (Donkey or burrow). Remember when Lord Baladeva killed the Dhenukasura Ass-Demon ? Anciently such subdued or slain ‘demons’ typically became the servants, attendants or mounts / vehicles of their conquerors! Thus this and other purports may be given to the fact that Jesus Christ entered Jerusalem on such a controversial Mount. Whatever the ‘Colt’ or ‘Ass’ import, the fact that Jesus Christ was worshiped with PALM FRONDS which are SACRED TO LORD BALADEVA is of profound importance! Lord BALADEVA’s Flag is emblazoned with a PALM FROND. As the Supreme Lord BAL YAHU of the Yadu LUNAR DYNASTY Lineage of the Semites, Lord Baladeva was the Supreme Lord of Jericho, the City of Palms, and of the Land and Peoples of the Bible!

  3. Note that ALL of Gopala’s OLDER THAN KOUROS FORMS like the Bearded DIONYSOS, and His Mature Asclepios (Ananta Charaka) and Zeus Fulgar (the Lightning-Bearer Indra ‘King of the Devas’) Forms etc. are actually Forms of Dionysos / Baladeva. In the same way, Father Nanda Maharaja and all of the older Gopas of Vrndavan, as well as the Purusha Avataras or Devas throughout all spiritual and material Worlds are manifest through Lord Baladeva! Thus the half-Human Great Physician Asclepios, born of the mortal CORONIS / HARINI or MARY-MIRIAM / NARI-NARAYANI was considerd the INCARNATE SON of Helios-Apollo. This cause ridiculing laughter from the non-Devotees of the Region, who jested about the mature bearded SON ASCLEPIOS IASAS (JESUS) being OLDER than His Ever-New-Youth FATHER HELIOS KOUROS (Apollo). Yes KRISHNA (Kouros Keshava) IS the Father of Jesus Christ / Asclepios IASAS, The Great World-Saving, Sin-destroying Physician!

    “Apollo, shown as a beardless youth with a crown of laurel, bids goodbye to Dionysus, bearded and wearing tragic garb and carrying a special staff (the thyrsus).”

    Helios Kouros Apollo NEVER AGES and He never really leaves His BUCOLIC Lotus-Island Abode! So why is HELIOS considered only or even mainly a mundane SUN GOD? It seems that His real business is chasing sacred Cows with his PALS / Go-PALS, playing His Flute and leading His CAROL CIRCLE DANCE with RHODA and Her KORAE GIRLFRIENDS! This seems like the GOD WHO IS LOVE to me!

    So who is it that rides in a celestial Chariot with Seven Horses? HELIOS QUADRIGOS DRIVES a 4 HORSE CHARIOT FOR ARJUNA. And, if KRISHNA is one of the class of supreme solar gods, as asserted by many scholars, why does he appear in the LUNAR DYNASTY of the Yadus? I suspect that He arranged THAT just to confound the ‘class of mundane solar deities’ opinionated atheists

    Dionysos as KOUROS is the SAME AS KOUROS ASCLEPIOS. Dionysos as the mature bearded ascetic and leader of the Circle Dance ‘Carol’ (from KOURU-AULOS the Circle Dance led by a AULOS FLUTE) is the same as Asclepios IASAS and JESUS CHRIST. Asclepios Iasas is BalaDeva as the Ayur Vedic Great Physician Ananta Charaka. Jesus is This SAME Form of Lord Baladeva.

    By Tragic Garb is meant a reference to the costuming in classical Greek Theatre, which was performed in the great Asclepian Sanctuary Amphitheaters. The Theater with its educational and cathartic emotional healing potency was essential to the Cultus of the Great Physician, and so the Great Theaters at the Asclepian Sanctuaries were dedicated to Dionysos or Asclepios Iasas. The patients at the Asclepian Healing Centers could see a Comedy or a Tragedy, depending on what kind of an emotional release that they needed. Please see my Albums on facebook about the great Dionysian-Asclepian Sanctuary Amphitheaters. When the Lord of Life puts on His Burial Gown and is prepared to descend to the Dead, He wears the garb of Tragedy.

    “…carrying a special staff (the thyrsus).”

    The strange Thyrsus Staff of Dionysos and His Retinue is a Giant Fennel Fern Stalk, topped with a Pine Cone.

    Dear Vrn, Did I show you the fields of wild Giant Fennel Ferns growing around the Hermitage here? Imagine my surprise after we spent the first YEAR cleaning this property up, and seeding it for erosion control and wildlife food and habitate, when the next spring hundreds of giant Fennel Ferns sprouted up ‘from nowhere’ all around the Hermitage here on top of the Ridge! Looking at the properties surrounding this one, there does not appear to be any Fennel at all on them! So, How did it get here and and how did manage to cover the hill top after we spent a year covering the entire acre with from one to 12 feet of clean mineral soil fill!?!

    See the wreath on the Head of Dionysos? Traditionally it is either IVY VINES or GRAPE VINES. Did you see the Ivy Vines growing on the hill just South of the Fennel Field on the South side of the Hermitage?

    Well I could write a book about this Vase, but I must stop here. God Night, Dear Friends!

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