Let us compare the degradation of the Primal Revelation in the Medi-Terranean (Middle Earth) Region to that of its degradation in Indian ‘Hinduism’.
In india today, if I say ‘Indra’ to a ‘Hindu’ how many people will instantly think of Krishna-Vishnu as the Vedic Purusha manifest as Indra? How many will immediately remember Sri Krishna-Vishnu asserting that HE IS Indra in His Bhagavad-Gita? How many will think of the Pure Land Buddhist Doctrine that Avalokiteshvara (Vishnu) may appear as Indra, the King of ‘heaven’. How many will think of Indra as the King (Royal-Post-occupier) of our Material ‘heaven’ or cosmic manifestation? How many will first or only think of Indra as a bolt-throwing deva demigod or storm god? These different ideas of Indra represent stages of the devolution of Vedic-Vaishnava thought/realization, with a lusty fornicating bolt-throwing material storm-god as the last stage, the last remnant of identification with the entire previous tradition.
Notice the winged lighting-bolt (see etching of engraving below) Vajra of Zeus and Indra (and Tantric Buddhism) in this relief of Kouros and His Kouretes. There was an ancient confounding of the Chakra of Helios Kouros (Krishna-Vishnu) and the Vajra Lighting-bolt of Indra, Who is Zeus as FULGAR, the Wielder of the Lighting-bolt. Zeus and Jove (Jupiter, YA-Pitr, Father YAHU) are the Same Supreme Father God as Heru-Wasu-AHMUN in Egypt. The Greek Zeus, and Greco-Roman Theos, Dios and Deus are cognate with both the Sanskrit DEVA and Dyaus. As POLIEUS /PURUSHA Egyptian PER-AUSU, Zeus or Jupiter had hundreds and thousands of Holy Names, which were the Names that He was known by in every little home shrine and great Temple-City-State dedicated to Him in the ancient World. The important thing to understand is that now, the only ‘Zeus’ that commonly comes to mind is that of the late polytheist’s lusty ‘storm god’ lighting-bolt thrower of the late Greco-Roman mythologists and their modern commentators.
When comparative religions scholars compare the Mediterranean and Indic ‘Hindu’ Religions, they are usually comparing the related-forms of this last stage. Thus for a long time they have been comparing the polytheistic demigods and astrological deities or devas Zeus Fulgar and Indra, Helios and Surya, Saturn and Sani etc. but where is Krishna or Vishnu or the Cosmic Purusha Who is the Vedic Revelation Origin of all of these Vedic DEVAS? Even Vaishnava scholars have long been comparing the ‘Hindu’ devas with the Greek and Roman demi-gods, and totally neglecting to compare the Supreme Godhead of the Greco-Roman-Egyptian-Semitic Tradition of Monotheism with their own Krishna-Vishnu-Paramatman! Generally these Vaishnava scholars, like most other ‘Hindus’, have a prejudice against what they think of as the ‘Abrahmanic Religions’. This prejudice blinds them to any evidence that the Supreme God of the Judeo-Christian Tradition is their own KRISHNA-VISHNU-PARMATMA and SIVA! They do not know that their own Devi is also worshiped in the Judeo-Christian Tradition!
In fact most of them will not even consider the evidence that have been trying to get them to look at for over 40 years. Thus I have had to fight this blind and blinding attitude of prejudice among the Vaishnavas for my whole adult life. However, if at any time such scholars will set-aside their prejudice and fairly consider the evidence, they will find that what I have said is true…the entire Vedic Revelatory Tradition of Krishna-Vishnu-Paramatman and Devi is there in the most ancient Mediterranean Region in the Afro-Heleno-Semitic Heliopolitan Traditon, with its ORIGIN in the worship of RHODA-KOUROS / RADHA-KRISHNA and BAL-DIOS / BALADEVA on Thier Prehistoric Sacred Lotus Island Dvipa of Rhoda-Asteria-Nymphia RADHA-TARA-PADME!
Additionally the mundane astrological association of the Vedic Devas with material planetary regents and constellations, and the identification of the Personal Cosmic Purusha Jagannatha Vishva-Rupa Vishvarata Form of God as a mere imaginary astrological ‘time-man’ is also the cause of the devolution of the Vedic Revelation into a form of mundane astrological polytheism. Thus in both Greco-Roman late polytheism and ‘Hindu’ polytheism, mundane astrology has eclipsed the Vedic-Vaishnava Revelation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and thus the actual Historical and Theological existence and Identity of the Supreme Personality of Godhead has been forgotten. Thus Heru-Wasu / Eli-Yahu / Allah / Helios / Surya has been reduced to a mere sun god. Kouros Krishna has been reduced to a mere late-cupid-like demi ‘god of love’ of one sect of ‘Hinduism’. Siva is just the tamo-guna avatara or the god of aghoris and pot smokers. Devi (Kali) is just the property of the extreme Left Hand Tantrics. Thus modern polytheistic and impersonalistic ‘Hindus’ in general have no actual Monotheistic realization of the Vedic Revelation of the Self-Sacrificed Vedic Purusha as the Origin of ALL of the Devas! Conversely Vaishnavas have lost their realization of the Devas as actually worhipable VEDIC FORMS of Krishna-Vishnu, and they have thus become extremely exclusivistic and sectarian, much like the Protestant Fundamentalist Christians who think that they alone know WHO God is, and how He wants to be worshiped!
The Kingly Form of God is Not His Original Form.
Why is the Roman JOVE or JU-piter associated with the Greek Zeus? If we look to ancient Egypt and the Near East, we find that the EARLY Roman and Greek Supreme Father Gods were also associated with the Supreme Father Gods of Africa Heliopolis, Thebes, Kush, and of the Levant (Near East), including the Supreme Father God of the Hebrews, Israelites and Jews! These Supreme Father Gods all shared many Holy Names and doctrines, rites and laws, and their devotees often belonged to the SAME Religious Federations of Asyla or Temple-City-State Alliances or Leagues!
On Earth ‘as above, so below’ the Anointed King was the Earthly representative of the Supreme Father God. He was to be the Provider and Protector of all of the beings in his realm. He occupied a POST, just like INDRA occupies the POST of the King of the Material Cosmic Order. This is why Zeus and Jupiter as the Polieus/Polis VASUDEVA / BAZODEO / BASILEUS Kings were worshiped in Awe and Reverence with Their Shekinah/ Shakti Queens. Such worship in Royal Raja Awe and Reverence did NOT mean that these were the ORIGINAL FORMS OF GOD AND SHAKTI. To the Greek MONOTHEISTS, KOUROS and KORE were the Source of all other Forms of God and His Shekinah/Shakti. To the Romans, Jupiter Juvenalis and Juno Juventas (Krishna YAUVANA and Radha YAUVANI) were the original Forms of Jupiter and Juno! In the Vedic-Vaishnava Revelation the Original Forms of God and Shakti are Their Kouros and Kore, or Krishna-Nava-Yauvana and RadhaYauvani, Their transcendental Eternal Forms of Youthful Beauty, in Their HieroGamos ‘Bridal Mysticism’ of Their Highest Paradise of Goloka, which is the Bucolic Bokolion Paradise of Rhodes of the Greeks!
As Indra in the earilest Rig Vedic Related sources is ‘born’ from the Self Sacrifice of the Cosmic Purusha (Ashura/Vishnu), and therefore has no separate existence from Him, so too Zeus Fulgar, the Lightning-thrower ‘King’ of the Material Sky in later Greek Polytheism has his Origin in Zeus-Polieus / PURUSHA. AND this POLIEUS WHO is BAL-YAHU THEOS has His Historical and theological Origin in Helios Kouros. Thus in the Eatern Vedic Tradtion, Sri Krishna expands as Baladeva, and Baladeva further manifests countless other Vishnu Forms, including the Cosmic Purusha WHO is the Source of ALL of the DEVAS, including Indra. Indra is NOT the God of Gods! He is only filling a social-ordering post of King-Kshatriya among the Devas. The very serious mistake that all non-Vaishnavas and even many Vaishnavas make is to think that Vishnu is a minor figure in the Vedic Hymns!!!!! ALLLLLLLLLL of the Vedic Devas are BORN FROM THE SACRIFICE OF PURUSHA. So WHO is the Supreme God-of-gods? Who is the Origin of the Devas? When Sri Krishna says that He Alone is worshiped by the Vedic Hymn, why don’t we GET IT????? He says in His Gita I AM …Indra, Surya, Chandra, Kubera, Skanda, Siva, etc! These are His Names as the POLIEUS or PURUSHA Presiding ‘DEVA’ or Theos of every PURA or POLI Body-Temple-City-State-Loka-Virat existing. He is the PURUSHA of the vastu-Purusha / Greek Polieus. Thus ZEUS-POLIEUS was the Presiding Form of Polieus in every Temple of every Greek Polis City, and He had hundreds and thousands of Names. Only in the late corrupted polytheistic and pantheistic period was it forgotten that these were originally all Names of the Same Deity Hari-Vasu-Atman / Heru-Wasu-Aten / Eli-Yahu-Adon. The Original Monotheism devoted to Krishna-Purusha(Vishnu)-Paramatman was centered on the Isle of Rhodes in the Mediterranean and in the first great City of Heliopolis in Northern Egypt. This Krishna-Vishnu-Paramatman Tradition developed for THOUSANDS of years before it degenerated, like HINDUISM into polytheism and pantheism!
The concept of Indo-European anything related to this Primal Monotheism is profoundly flawed, as it is a product of a purely racist (‘White’ Aryanist) view of human development. Second, there is no single time-line, because the devolution of this primal Trinitarian Monotheism can occur in an individual’s life, in a family, community, or wider culture and is always continuing. Kingly mundane ambitions, Impersonalism, ‘spiritual pride’ and several other factors always seem to contribute to this devolution.
Question: What is the identity of the ‘Dyaus Pita’ “sky father” figure in the RigVeda, the father of Indra and later slain by him, just as Cronus in the Greek. There is cognates for Dya…us Pita; Jupiter, Zeus Pater, and is wife to Prithvi Mata/Earth MOther etc, and of course, Sky Father/Earth Mother is a key aspect of Polynesian religions. Would you say Dyaus Pita/Jupiter/Zeus-Pater is also Vishnu..even in the RigVeda? This also pertains to the issue of Odin/Thor in Norse…as we know Thor is cognate to Indra in function, thunder god, lord of Asgard (Svarga), and Odin is his 1-eyed father, one of Odin’s name is “Olfater” ‘All-father’…
ALL of the ‘Vedic Gods’ are described in the Vedic Hymns as Born-from, or FORMS OF THE ADI PURUSHA. Vishnu is the Adi Purusha. In His Gita, Sri Krishna-Visnu explains that He IS all of the Vedic Gods, such as Indra, Surya, Varuna, Chandra etc. The Gita thus confirms the Monotheistic Revelation of the Purusha Sukta Vedic Hymns. If one tests the claims of Krishna-Vishnu in the Gita, one can actually find that in EVERY CASE Krishna-Vishnu IS historically and theologically the ‘God’ mentioned! Thus ZEUS POLIEUS (PURUSHA) has countless Names and Forms, and one among these was FULGAR, the Bearded Lighting-Thrower King of the Celestial Heaven. THIS WAS/IS INDRA. Zeus as MEGHISTOS KOUROS was /is KRISHNA. Zeus as the Lion-Headed Form of TIME / KRONOS was/is NARASIMHADEVA etc. JU-PITER (Zeus) the Roman cognate of Zeus also had/has countless Names and Forms, corresponding to those of Zeus, Vishnu, Lokeshvara etc. In each related Tradition with a Vishnu-related Supreme Father God or Adi Purusha, there are countless Nama-Rupa Name-Forms of the masculine Lord PURUSHA and His Feminine Prakriti. Thus the Greatest and Original KOUROS / Krishna was the Lover of the Original and Greatest KORE, RHODA / RADHA! The ORIGINAL FORMS OF Roman JUPITER and JUNO WERE JUVENALIS and JUVENTA…. KRISHNA-Nava-YAUVANA and RADHA-Nava-YAUVANI! Rome’s JUVENILE / YOUTHFUL JUPITER was/is Greece’s KOUROS and India’s KRISHNA-Yauvana. Rome’s Juvenile Juno was/is Greece’s KORE-RHODA and India’s RADHA-YAUVANI.